Friday, July 21, 2006

Is Marathi culture getting destroyed?

“Marathi ppl are loosing their cultural identity” –

somebody made this claim....
my thoughts on the same..

Mitraho..

मराठी माणसाची संस्क्रुती हि खूप गहनतेने विचार करायची गोष्ट आहे. महाराष्ट्राची भौगोलिक स्थिती, आणि इतिहास, नजीकच्या भूतकाळात मराठी माणसाच्या सांस्क्रुतिक परिवर्तनाला बहुतांशी जबाबदार आहे असे माझे मत आहे. (माझे मराठीचे प्रेम प्रदर्शित करुन झाल्यामुळे मी आता आपल्या सर्वांच्या स्वग्रुहीत पुर्वानुमतीने आंग्लभाषेचा वापर करुन पुढिल विचार मांडतो.)

Maharashtrians (read Marathi if you want) are the link between North and South India. It is not just the link but a beautiful mixture of North and South India. You can see that in musical cultural, food culture and most importantly the intellectual culture. The best example would be the festivals in Maharashtra and their relation to festivals in Northern and Southern parts of India. The North Indians did not worry since Hindi is our national anguage . In south, the politicians have made an issue of "injustice due to imposition of Hindi" (rightfully or wrongfully) to preserve their language (or their power).


We, Marathis, have been absorbing and accommodating (as the entire Hindu culture is known for) community for years now. In the multi-dimensionally diverse India, we, Maharashtrians, play (and played) a unifying role.

Due to Islamic invaders the North has been adulterated quite a lot from its original “culture”. You cannot deny the influence of Urdu on Hindi. South had been very well protected and hence has been able to maintain lot of its original culture.

Mumbai was capital of East India Company and turned into(still is) financial capital of India. Naturally there was (is) huge influx of people from all over India towards Mumbai. Also, considering the natural instincts, those who came as outsiders, stuck together and helped each other. (You can see Indian ghettos in all major cities {and small university towns as well}in US...its a natural instinct). Since we, as Maharashtrians, were at home, did not develop this tendency (due to lack of necessity) of helping only our kind.

During freedom struggle, “Marathi maaNus” contributed undoubtedly in huge numbers in terms of leadership as well as the fighter in the field. With the goal of unification against British, Tatya Tope gathered the whole India for a single cause. Later, Tilak, Aagarkar, Saawarkar, and numerous other Marathi freedom fighters made Maharashtra the center for freedom struggle of India. While Delhi is our Capital today, Mumbai was our real capital almost till Independence. The defining Quit India movement resolution by the All India Congress Committee was passed in its Bombay session in 1942. Maharashtra was formed with Mumbai as its capital in 1960 as a result of Samyukta Maharashtra movement. The success of it lies in the fact that the culture of Mumbai and Marathi people is inseparable.

I am a proud Marathi, especially considering the above mentioned history and contribution of Maharashtrians in the (glorious) history of India. I consider that the unifying attitude, acceptance of multi-lingual and multi-cultural communities, dissolving within diverse group without attention but with extensive contribution (can’t stop praising ‘we Marathis’ now can I? :):)) etc. are the “cultivated” and “evolved” aspects of Marathi culture. I believe (historically and even today) there were and are plenty of Marathi people with significant contribution in all aspects of life, and in India as well as all over the world.

Do I mean that there should not be any concerns about Marathi’s situation as a language in Maharashtra? Personally, I do think that there are worrisome trends but then there are some rays of hope. In my recent visit to Pune, I was surprised that almost at all public places (including Laxmi Road) default language for start of a conversation was Hindi. Not sure if it should, but it bothered me a little bit. At the same time, amount of Marathi in Bollywood movies, hit (as far as my information goes) musical albums (aika dajiba etc.), hit poems and songs (Divas Ase Ki, Naamanjoor, Kaifiyat etc.), all of these are encouraging signs for Marathi literature .

In conclusion I would say my opinion is, it is important for Marathi people to be aware of need to preserve Marathi language and culture and help each other. While doing that, first, we need NOT contribute to the mayhem India is facing during the transition to a globally powerful economy. And second, as Marathis, we should consider our (historically) evolved state of mind before judging ourselves based on how other (actually SOME narrow-minded, amongst those, if I dare to say so) communities are conducting themselves.

Thank you for reading so far (if you have really read :)),
Saatwik.

References:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Independence_Movement

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumbai#History

8 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello
I am a marathi born and brought up outside maharahtra and very sad to see that we marathis do not command as much respect as a community as the others do. We are not dominating and making our presence felt on the national scene.

We don not aim at earning wealth and get lost in mindless patriotism. I think Marathi culture now is like the Bheeshma of MAhabharata,w ho has been shot with arrows and bleeding to death due to his vow to RajDharma (Nationalism) Except for few extra ordinary achievers like Sachin, Lata Mangeshkar,etc., we are not really running after success.

Even on my trips to my native place, I saw that in general one marathi man looks at the others with suspicion. We as a community do not respect each others achievements and also we do not beleive in working hard.

I think the best way to preserve marathi culture is through the media of films. We should not throw out all outsiders from mumbai, or hate people from other cultures but very dutifully build our own marathi cultural world through movies.

We should make GOOD and superhit marathi movies and every marathi family should make it to a point to see more meaningful marathi movies than stupid bollywood stuff

5:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GOVERNMENT MUST GIVE MORE IMPORTANCE TO TELEGU AND ENGLISH

We must promote ALL Indian languages as well as english becuase English is a neutral language .
otherwise we should replace English with a NEUTRAL language like Prakrit

Here are some objections against Hindi: WHY HINDI IS SO DANGEROUS

1.You cannot take the language of one state and promote it as the national
language. This is the opinion of many people I have spoken to.
It creates an artificial politically induced lopsided development . (I will give you an example shortly )

Tomorrow if we have only Hindi medium schools throughout India , people from 4 hindi speaking states
due to their natural fluency in the language will get higher marks than me. Plus I have to learn an additional
language (Telegu) (which he doesn't) for which I have to sacrifice another subject . This is a double advantage
for a hindi speaker and a double disadvantage for a non-hindi speaker. Within years , people from 4 states will
take away all the Engineering and Medical seats and all jobs if the private sector is forced to operate in Hindi .
This will happen right from Kashmir to kanyakumari. This is not based on merit but a politically engineered

differentiation.
This is the end of the day for merit based education in India.

I do agree that English is difficult but it is equally difficult for everybody. That is the point here.
The only problem is that English creates an urban rural divide, but the onus to solve this rests with
the state government. Many states like Karnataka and andhra have already taken steps to
solve this. Where's the legal remedy if you take the language of one state and allow it
to replace English ? This is a perfect recipe for disaster and can even wipe out other
languages in the long run.

Otherwise create a new neutral language.

2. Another danger of having one language as the national language are that is encourages
one linguistic group to believe that they are superior to others and are always
in a position to take over the rest of the country. They are also forced
to live in a fools paradise -as a written language Hindi is anyway dead outside the
Hindi speaking states.So, what's the point?

Some people want to make hindi an international language. If we make Assamese an
international language, we have to make it a national language first. What happens
to all other Indian languages then?

3. Can you show me any other non-hindi speaking state which accepts Hindi as one of the official
languages of the state ? None. If tomorrow , West Bengal opens Hindi medium schools in every village
in Bengal , half of Bihar will be in Bengal . That is the end of Bengali culture which even the British or
the Muslims and the british did not touch. We cannot allow the language of one state to replace English as this would

undermine
the spirit of the Indian constitution.

Similarly if the the state goverment of Andhra pradesh opens Hindi medium schools in
Vijayawada , it has to open Gujarathi and Marathi medium schools also. That is why
no state government in India allows schools in any language other than the local
language plus English. On what basis should Hindi medium schools be allowed in Vijayawada
and not Malayalam medium schools ? Based on the law of numbers ?

Again, Hindi is the "official language" of the Central government . in Andhra Pradesh,
for example, only Telegu, urdu and English have been given official status .So doesn't
Hindi undermine the federal spirit of the Indian constitution again ? Education is not even a
central subject as per the indian constitution.

4.Can you also show me one hindi sign board anywhere in India outside a Hindi speaking state?
I have yet to come across one in my entire life except in a central government office.

5. Again can you show me one private sector company in India which operates in Hindi ?
The private sector considers Hindi to be another regional language like kannada - period.
So , why force it on the private sector ?


6.Finally, even if you try to spread keep spreading hindi, human nature being what it is,
the chances are that it will fail.So what is the point in spreading it at all if you are ultimately not
successful?

Alternatively , you may teach basic Hindi / Hinglish in every state as a spoken language
either in the English script or in the script of the local language, since we do
need one spoken colloquial throught the country.Let us remember only unity in diversity
integrates India in the long run. Hinglish (eg Kal 7'0' clock 100% aaungaa ,sir ) is the local dialect
in many non-hindi speaking states because it is very simple to learn , but it has no legal status
or a written form anywhere.

7. No upto date sociologist will accept the theory that a country needs one national language to stay
united. If you suggest this idea to anybody anywhere in the world, it will become the international
joke of the century. This is remniscent of early Hindi nationalism (1947-1956).
We can take legal action against them in a court of law and this is the stupidest idea in the History of
human civiization.Even the muslims and the British did not touch Indian languages three of which
(Tamil, Telegu and Kannada are more than two thousand years old).

However Hindi will become one of the countries most important spoken lingua francas in
the long run based on the law of demand and supply. HINDI FOR CULTURAL EVENTS, MAKING FRIENDS,
WATCHING MOVIES ETC (SINCE ENGLISH IS HOPELESSLY UNSUITED FOR ALL THIS)
AND A NEUTRAL LANUAGE AS AN OFFICIAL LANGUAGE WILL ALONE PROMOTE NATIONAL UNITY. And this is
what is happening, "Automatically" based on the law of demand and supply.

8. Again , if India replaces English with Hindi or malyalam. India will break up in 20 years I can also give
this to you in writing. I CHALLENGE ANYONE TO PROVE ME WRONG. Look at Kashmir.

Why on earth will any Kashmiri educate his children in Hindi, and enslave his children
to people of another state and spoil
the next generations future when Hindi is hardly even a written language anywhere in India
Just because he speaks Hindi to his carpenter or watchman and
watches Hindi movies , it doesn't mean anything. One needs to do a qualitative analysis.
MOST PARTS OF INDIA HAVE CONNECTIONS WITH SOME OTHER COUNTRY AND NOT WITH THE HINDI Heartland.
The dream of a Software Engineer from Hyderabad is to go to the USA , not to Lucknow.

9. Again in mulitlingual countries there has always been demand for an neutral language
Eg Bhutan, Pakistan, Nigeria, Singapore etc. Exception Canada: but canada has always promoted
bilingualism.

10.Tomorrow, if we remove English and replace it with Tamil, Tamil medium schools will
open all over andhra pradesh, and we will be subservient to the people of another state.
If we replace English with Hindi , don't you think the danger to Andhra pradesh's economy
is even greater because Hindi speakers are 8 times greater in number.
Can the reader please carefully think through this?
What benefits will the replacement of English with Hindi bring to the economy of Andhra
Pradesh ? .none, when Hindi has no written form outside the Hindi belt. In the eyes of
any international expert, will this lead to National integration ? Certainly not.
In some ads in Hindi channels , the Kathakali dance of Kerela is shown in the Hindi
language and a complete mockery of the dance is made. Isn't this a disrespect for Indian
culture ?

11. Furthermore, Hindi is just
another Indian language which can be picked up without any difficulty.
Hindi and urdu are virtually the same language.
So it is enough if we make it the third language?

12. Again nehruvian socialist cultural policies are horrendously outdated. They focus only
on the Mughal empire and British empire and provide an Ideal excuse for the BJP
to promote Hindutva. How can this sustain national integration in the long run?

HEY Hindiwallah - STOP WORRYING ABOUT HINDI AND START WORRYING ABOUT INDIA. ONLY THEN
YOU CAN CATCH UP WITH THE REST OF INDIA

WHAT WE NEED TO DO : ADOPT A UNITY IN DIVERSITY MODEL AND MAKE INDIA THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN
THE WORLD

The greatness of India is its Unity in Diversity . Follow a unity in Diversity
model . Examples countries following this model are
(a) Switzerland
(b) Singapore
(c) Canada

Each state can select link languages based on popular demand (English and Basic Hindi may be)
and compensate other languages for the loss in other ways - spend more money on other
languages since Hindi has already spread and will continue to do so based on the law of
demand and supply. Only Unity in Diversity and a healthy mutual respect for
various Indian cultures sustains National
integration in the long run. You can check out the Switzerland model if you want. You
might also want to know how Unity in Diversity helped Canada from disintegrating.
The Unified Rajbhasha Model was required before liberalization but now common sense
would only indicate based on experience everywhere that a unity in diversity model
is more appropriate.

Take this oft-repeated statement

"Over centralization destroyed India, now liberalization
is reuniting India"

Here is one model you might want to adopt since Hindi has already spread.
The following is my suggestion:
Amend the constitution and
(a) Make all Indian languages National languages as a token of acknowledgement of
the rich diversity of the sub-continent and the
equality of all cultures
(b) Declare English as the recommended Official link language (But leave the choice
to the states)
(c) some states can choose Hindi or other languages as a cultural link language if required.
* Hindi enables poorer people across India to communicate with each other since 40% of
Indians speak Hindi versus 5% english , but that is about it : as a
written language hindi is already dead outside of the Hindi belt. In my opinion
people need to learn the mother tongue first followed by English and Basic Hindi
(optional). Hindi is is mainly useful the wholesale , retail trade and the
entertainment industry and for some amount of emotional bonding. It not only imposes
load on some states but gives more preferences for 4 states with repsect to
job) and some states States , of course get to
decide their own cultural policy . This
includes
(a) Role of the mother tongue
(b) Role of English
(c) Role of Hindi
(d) Role of other Regional languages
This will ensure that the local culture gets first preference.
We need to encourage a Unity in Diversity model . I however support a basic knowledge
of ONE Indian language throughout the country
i.e Hindi (as English requires a formal education). It but let the realization come
voluntarily, let it not be imposed. Ideally
a neutral language such a spoken Prakrit
would have been better but now that Hindi has already spread
throughout most of India , it will keep spreading based on the Law of supply and
demand .We can no longer avoid it.
Several formulas are also available to judge
languages based on Historical significance,
Cultural importance, uniqueness, number of speakers etc ( A lot
of research has been done of this in the
past few years and while maintianing
national integration, such formulas can help
determine the budget spend on other Indian
languages). Dilopmas such as
1. master of all Indian languages
2. Master of Classical indian languages
3. Master of South indian languages
4. Master of Sanksrit, Gujarati, Hindi etc
5. Master of North eastern languages

can be awarded by the central government. Members of each language group can be represented
in a new body that is created to promote Indian languages.This will also give a place
to people from all language groups at the central government and promote national unity.

Alternatively , the centre need not promote any language. Leave it to the states.
This model is followed in the European union. However, certain Central government
organizations like the Indian army can use Hindi as one of their working languages.


Sujay

3:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry I mean Marathi and English, if you are referring to
Maharashra !!!!!!

Sorry for the error

Sujay

4:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I dont know why this person has babbled so long about National language and his heading he openly talks about Telugu. Keep your telugu in ur own state buddy. Only when we marathis start talking about our culture peple stand up and start giving us a big lecture on we have to adjust in national ineterests. Is that what you are pointing at??

Get lost buddy and this post should be removed immediately as it does not relate to the topic being discussed at all

1:24 PM  
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Good Work Sujay... Appreciated

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Blogger मराठी भाषा संवर्धन said...

Indian Constitution 343 C does not keep any Provision stating Hindi as national language rather there are 22 Official languages hence Marathi language should only be used in Mumbai
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